Flavor Notes – TPA Mango

Mango slice cut to cubes close-up on dark background

The Perfumer's Apprentice (aka The Flavor Apprentice) Mango fruit flavor

Manufacturer’s Description:
Water soluble.
Fresh, natural tasting mango.
Ingredients:Natural  & Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol.

TPA Doesn’t give suggested percentage uses. However, the average online consensus of recommended starting point is between 10% and 20% single flavor.

TPA Mango was one of the first fruit flavors I ever mixed with and to this day is still one of my favorite mango flavors.  This mango has a warm, meaty fruit base note, with mild peach and waxy fruity mid notes, and slightly sharp and metallic top notes.  There is the slightest hint of a strawberry type molecule used in it, and some of the lighter nectarine/peach top notes. I also get a slight neroli note from it as well, giving it a slight floral tone.

Overall this is very much a natural ripe mango flavor, if you’ve ever had a well ripened fresh mango. A fresh mango that is well ripe will have those slight metallic notes to it, but they don’t make the fruit or the flavor bitter, however they are sharp and contrastingly crisp against the meaty/mealy fruit base notes.

My recommended percentages for TPA/TFA Mango is 7% up to 12% for a single flavor.  When blending with other flavors anywhere from 0.5% up to 10% can be used (higher amounts for Mango main flavor profile mixes.)

TFA Mango Negative Flavor Notes

TFA Mango is an all around good mango flavor.  However, if you use it at too high of a percentage for your own personal perception levels it can go into a sort of funky, dirty, bitter, unpleasant metallic, chemical type notes.  What was too high of a percentage for me? Roughly 9% is where it started going off for me as a stand alone. But I am extremely sensitive, so for some people this amount might not be until to you get to 15% if you are less sensitive to its negative aroma qualities.  I find it can also overpower blended recipes when used higher than 5%, but that is also very dependent upon the recipe it’s in.  If you are using TFA mango in a recipe and you are getting sharp, unpleasant metallic notes, or dirty and bitter notes, I suggest lowering your Mango amount.   If you aren’t perceiving any of the sharp upper metallic notes (in a good way) try layering it with CAP Sweet Mango — which is heavier on the sharp metallic notes.

Recipe 1 -- Juicy Mouthgasm

1TPA Dragon Fruit
2%TPA Mango
2%TPA Peach (Juicy)
0.5%FA Oba Oba
0.20%FA White Peach

This is not a complicated recipe, or a complex flavor profile.  But it has layers of flavors that simply work well together.  It is genuinely a Shake and Vape recipe. I know there are a lot of people who poo-poo on the idea of anything being shake and vape, and I am a firm believer in letting recipes have some time to bloom, but this one works from the moment it is shaken and is a fairly consistent flavor even after a month of steeping.  The only thing that steeping does for this flavor is increases the richness of the overall base notes in the fruit and disperses some of the metallic and floral top notes from the mango and peach.  But even with the loss of the top notes and a smoothing of the base notes, it is still a lovely flavor profile after a month of steeping.

The dragonfruit is not a main player but you can taste a little bit of it’s wetness and at 1% it adds to the mealy textured flavor of the mango and the peach — both fruits are very meaty fruits.  It also smooths everything together in a way other brands of dragon fruit does not.

The Mango flavor shines in this recipe even at only 2% — it comes through as the main profile flavor with peach supporting and adding to the overall tones of the profile.

The Oba Oba addition was something I did later after using this flavor for like a year.  I find that the oba oba gives it a little more sweetness and adds some fruity hints in there, but not enough that you’d know it was oba oba added to it.  The slight vanilla note in oba oba also enhances the overall flavor profile.

The recipe also works with menthol — in fact it is usually the recipe I vape when I am ill and can’t taste much of anything. With about 0.5% or 1% menthol added it gives it a frosty fruit note which is quite nice and even when my nose is running I can usually taste the Mango and peach flavor.

Recipe 2 --

1.15%FA Black Fire
3%TPA Blueberry Wild
2.25%FA CamT Blend
0.65%FA Desert Ship
1%TPA Hibiscus
1%TPA Mango
0.92%FA Neroli
0.5%FA Oakwood
1%FA Oba Oba
0.85%FA Royal
1%FA Shade
0.75%FA Zen Garden

This was one of my all day vapes for a good 2 years.  Sure I vaped a tank of this or that, or dripped something I was testing out for a few hours, but there was something so satisfying about this flavor that I was hooked on it, until I could no longer taste CamT. Even a few years later now, I can only taste CamT for maybe a week, and then the flavor totally disappears for me — it’s not the flavoring, it’s my perception of the flavoring, much in the way if you work at a farm you stop being able to smell the manure.

This flavor hits you with that warm Sandalwood notes from the CamT right up front.  It is warm and woody with a hint of spiciness to it.  Then you get a bit of the dry, nutty desert ship flavor, blending with the richer leathery notes of the Shade tobacco, and the oak, woody notes of oakwood.  The fruit is lightly sweet on the inhale, but on the exhale you get a blending of the meaty mango with it’s slight bright metallic top notes and the bright, fresh blueberry notes from blueberry wild.  The floral notes and zen garden add in herbal, green, basil and floral notes that work well with the sandalwood notes and the fruit notes.  Neroli adds a hint of floral with that hint of citrus that plays nicely with the sharp metallic notes of the mango.

Oba Oba adds that bit of vanilla sweetness to the whole thing and the Black Fire blends into the entire mix giving it a toasted campfire overall note, but it does steep out after about 2 weeks — which is why it is so high.  Black Fire for me is also a note that quickly loses it’s aroma punch as I am vaping it.  It’s there, but I quickly become immune to the aroma.

I enjoy this recipe as a shake and vape, though it quickly changes over the course of 14 days and continues to steep for a total of 4 weeks.  After 4 weeks there is less of a change of the flavoring as it ages.  Fresh, it has a heavy smoky note and lots of sandalwood mixed with the mango and blueberry.  As it steeps the smoky note decreases and the sandalwood mellows out, allowing for the floral, spicy and fruity notes to come more to the surface of the vapor.

2%TFA Mango
0.5%FA Coconut
1%TFA Coconut (original)
1%FA Vanilla Classic
0.5%FA Vanilla Bourbon
0.35%FA Greek Yogurt
0.75%CAP Creamy Yogurt
0.75%FA Marshmallow
0.20%FA Marzipan
0.75%FLV Sweetness

If you like yogurt vapes and enjoy mango fruit on the bottom yogurts and coconut yogurt, this a is a nice blend of the two.  I love both of these types of yogurts and this recipe turned out very much like a normal sugar sweetened greek yogurt blend.  The coconut not only lends it’s nutty, meaty flavor to the recipe it also adds creamy notes to the yogurt as well.  The mango flavor really shines through as bright and crisp, and a little sharp which adds to the tangy, sour yogurt notes and plays with them very well.  The vanilla classic is a creamier vanilla, very similar to the average vanilla flavoring that is often found in most foods, but with the addition of vanilla bourbon — which is more like straight up vanilla extract without the alcohol kick — and the marzipan (which is almond notes but almond and vanilla have very similar profile notes) it just boosts the vanilla into a delicious main flavor profile note.  The marshmallow works to add a little bit of the that thick mouthfeel without being overpowering or causing muting.

I’ve updated this recipe to reflect my new fondness of Flavorah’s Sweetness. If I’m going to use a sweetener now, it is likely to be this one.  It will continue to sweeten up as it steeps, after about 7 to 14 days it will be at full sweetness. It is a clean type of sweet that does not clog up coils, but it also isn’t as dense of a sweetener as like CAP Super Sweet, it won’t leave a serious sugar taste on your lips, but it will sweeten just the right amount to make the aroma notes sing in the recipe without being sickeningly sweet. It is the sweetener in most cases I will recommend over the others. Going to high with it will cause muting, I generally stay under 1% to keep from having the muting or the stevia aftertaste that can come from it.

I find this recipe is best after a full 4 weeks of steeping.  The yogurt notes are too sharp and sour for me right from the start, but some people like it like that.  If you are using other methods of steeping, beyond just shake and wait, I recommend heating it to 125F (51C) degrees (bottle/container covered,)  with vigorous mixing — hand shaking, or magnetic stirrer.  I find a 2 week rest time is needed after heating and mixing this way and then it is about equal to 4 weeks shake and wait.  If you are using a vortexer, 3 minutes level 8 vortexing, closed cap tube, allow to rest about 6 or 8 days after.  I also suggest heating your VG until it is liquified before vortexing (roughly 115F -46C).

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  1. Hi

    I’m very new to mixing. I lived in the Philippines for a few years and had a weekend apartment in a province where they grew mangos for export. In season I would get 4 big ripe juicy mangos for £0.15 approx $0.20. I would get my hands and face sticky eating one using the cube method pictured above. Then I would clean up. Then I’d get messy and sticky again because they were irresistible.

    My long term aim is to perfect a mango. Not juice, not candy, not fruit salad, not yoghurt, not cake, not meringue, not tart, not sticky rice, not candy, not not cake, not concentrate, Just wet juicy ripe mango. Enough natural sweetness for your brain to shout ‘more’. No more body than the fruit. All I know is that I’m thinking Flavorah Mango as the main. Any advice on flavours to pair / try with this would be very much appreciated. I think authentic Mango is hard to nail. I’ve had very chemical medicinal episodes with oneshots.

    I almost hope I don’t perfect it and over vape it and ruin mango forever!

    • So far just a plain, sweet, realistic fruit mango capturing the juicy textured sweet fruit with the floral notes, the peachy notes, the light green notes as you get towards the rind of the mango, the slight tartness at the center where the texture becomes more the main feature….I haven’t yet made one and I am pretty sure I have almost all the mangos out there by the main flavor companies available at most of the vendors in the US/Canada/UK. What it seems like is that all the different mango flavorings capture one element of the mango, like FLV is the floral sweet and lightly juicy notes, FA’s mango captures the ultra ripe and slightly green notes with a mushy flesh texture, VTA mangos (they have a couple) capture the green notes and the juicy notes and sweetness, but lack flesh. TFA’s is kind of bland, has that light metallic note that you get towards the seed pod it’s more like a tartness than say licking a penny. RF’s is rich and juicy, sweet and like the middle of the flesh part, neither near the seed nor the skin. What you end up having to do is mixing several mangos together and possibly using things like peach to add more flesh and some sweetener to add the real sweet layer. It will mostly be an experience of finding the flavorings that match what your flavor memory is of the taste of those mangos.

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